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“I have a craft that you never have the hang of it’

You can but good tv, if you’re risk willing to take, Tom Lenaerts. And then you know that you on your mouth can go. “If you create something, you are constantly being thrown back and forth between insecurity and overconfidence.’

The large majority of us – up to 70 percent even – is sometimes overwhelmed by the feeling to be a scammer. The success that we have, we earn not really. Evidence of success …

The large majority of us – up to 70 percent even – is sometimes overwhelmed by the feeling to be a scammer. The success that we have, we earn not really. Expressions of success are pure luck. More still: early or late, we will through the basket to fall and everyone will see us as we really are: cheaters. The Standard speaks with Flemish leaders about the imposter syndrome (oplichterssyndroom), the doubt and the criticism. Today: tv-maker Tom Lenaerts.

‘I would be a kind of false modesty can say that I also fear have to be unmasked to be, but by getting older, I know better what I can. You try your life with more things that you can do well, and less things where you are unsure of. In theory, at least.’

“But new concepts, creation exists by the grace of the yourself difficult to make. I do really like the programs, but I’m also waking up. It is a constant balancing act: you have to force yourself to unknown territory. That goes hand in hand with a lot of uncertainty and fear, but at the same time, it also brings excitement and tension.’

What is the role played improvisation in it?

“I would never have been able to do if I have no improvisational theater had done. Improvise means by definition that you are vulnerable. You should be on your mouth dare to go. I learned that it’s not bad at all is to fail.’

“The first program in which I participated was Unforeseen Circumstances with Mark Uytterhoeven, me scouted by the Belgian Improvisatieliga. After each recording, I cried half a night from the stress that it is not would be good. That is an incredible learning experience, because it teaches you to be vulnerable.’

‘You can only but together creating things as you’ll be vulnerable and dare to prepare. I believe that it is much more important is to learn how to lose to learn to win. The better you are with loss can handle, the greater the chance of happiness.”

Chose you for the name Panenka because you believe in taking risks?

‘Panenka refers to the legendary penalty from Antonin Panenka, who is a huge risk took by in the final of the european CHAMPIONSHIPS, a soft ball towards the keeper to aim. Hoping that the keeper would do what a goalie is usually done at a penalty: a corner to choose. A panenka is a risk that everyone is brilliant as the happy ending. But if it fails, then you hear: “How stupid can you be? You had better just do it.”’

“I hope that I never told my children say: “act normal, that’s already crazy enough.” I sincerely hope that they are foolish enough to do that.’I find a panenka a wonderful metaphor for our practice. If you create something, you are constantly being thrown back and forth between insecurity and overconfidence. You have the hubris necessary to things to do. And you have uncertainty need to put yourself in question, to make things better.’

‘Only by taking risks, you can achieve anything. You should make it yourself difficult dare. I have the most beautiful profession in the world, but also the vermoeiendste appeal. A baker knows at a certain moment, how he is bread to make, who knows his craft. I have a craft that you may never know. There is no recipe for a good tv format.’

‘The recordings of our tv quiz, ‘Calmness Can Save You’: that is for me still difficult. That’s because I was so context-sensitive. I know that I can be good when everything is going well and the atmosphere cool. The first 5 minutes are crucial: if the atmosphere is well, I know that the good comes. Presenters Bart Peeters and Erik Van Looy, who are more professional than I am. They may have the right to withdraw if the atmosphere is not quite right. I am not: I am nervous and scared and start to sweat.’

There is a lot of perfectionism behind?

“Yes, but that is also honour in your work. If you have the chance to make a lot of money in a tv program, and put that to a very large audience, then that is a huge responsibility. You must be a perfectionist, otherwise you will go on a bad way of dealing with that responsibility. Perfectionism is a good trait, as long as it is not at the expense of yourself.”

Who is occasionally a panenka style will also be critical – for example, when you a few years ago Woestijnvis left. How do you handle that?

“The trick is to get bad criticism and good comments are equally important, but that is very difficult. I can be very hard to refrain from bad criticism, even if I have the people who criticize not so high estimation. Actually it would be that you are not allowed to touch, and yet it touches you. Somewhere in me there is a guy that ruthlessly wants to pleasen.’

‘Ageing doesn’t help. You would think that with the years can better be put into perspective, but that is not so. You continues to be a great vulnerable to criticism, or I anyway. While moderation is very important. It is like that you have to alternate between hubris and insecurity: you should have a tv program at the same time, the most important thing in the world, but also everything can be put into perspective.’

“But of course I am a pleaser. Many tv producers, I think. Sometimes, I wonder if anyone did a tv would make if no one would watch. Therefore, it is perhaps a bit too much work.”

Do good or poor ratings something with your self-confidence?

“I see that not as The Great Tom Lenaerts Poll, because that would mean I was there the last 25 years, but deteriorated am (laughs). Mischievous riders had so many viewers, that journalists asked whether the pressure to perform was not to big. No: the pressure is always the same.’

‘After the Impish riders walked, I also not on the clouds, because I was already a next program to the to think. You have to learn to enjoy success. Enjoy the art of losing yourself in the now. That is still something that I need to learn: more living in the now.’

‘At the same time lives with the fear that if you leave it too long to enjoy, there’s a kind of laziness would result. I will just be an incredible strever.”

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